I heard the grounds look absolutely terrible, with high grass and weeds everywhere. The trails probably have a lot of debris again, such as plastic wrappers, old meat pieces, latex gloves, land other debris, etc. I would not be surprised, because of all the high grass and weeds that the property is infected with mosquitoes, fleas, and ticks. How heartbreaking to hear this news when we all worked so hard to clean this place up.
I learned Henry Newman (“handyman”) and Jamie’s brother have been scrounging for scrap metal to sell. Large metal cages were seen carted away from the Talley Road property in the back of the WAO pickup truck.
My concern is they may be scrapping animal cages needed in the event of an emergency (natural disasters, fire, disease, animal relocation, etc). Regardless, what is done is done. Once all the metal is gone, what will they scrap next to raise funds? The WAO has such a finite supply of recyclable products; I’m not sure how much longer the workers can continue to recycle its own supplies.
So, realizing there is not much I can do at this point, seeing I no longer have an insider to advise me of the WAO’s situation, I am forced to come to grips there may not be anything I can do to save the WAO animals.
I did make an Public Information request with the Texas OAG, for the period of October 1, 2009 to present, and learned they have approximately 500 pages ready for print, not including my emails sent previously. I was given an estimated bill of over $91 for the print job. Yikes! At a time when I need every dollar to pay off my mounting bills, the OAG wants to charge me almost one hundred dollars for the prints. I don’t understand why these documents cannot be scanned and the disk sent to me instead! Saves on paper and cost of mailing the package!
Unexpectedly, I received this email link and blog story last night:
Back on the Home Front
http://topcatsroar.wordpress.com/2010/05/16/back-on-the-home-front/#comments
Fred and I took a short road trip that turned out not to be so short but we are now back home safely.
The agreement we made with the DA to get out of jail (remember, the agreement we both had to sign so we would release ownership of the cats to get out of jail), in return, all charges criminal and the civil suit would be dropped. BUT we would be responsible for retrieving our cages for transporting the big cats…yea, that one…(Of course we were led to believe the rest would be returned…or we never would have signed anything!)
Magic and Boo-Boo (black panthers), Elvira (Puma), Angel and Desire’ (registered Siberian Tigers) went to Wisconsin.
Tigger and Natasha (registered Siberian tigers) went to a Kirbyville.
and Boris and Gizmo (registered SDiberian tiger, rescued tiger mix) went to WAO (Wild Animal Orphanage) of San Antonio, TX.
We started our drive late Sunday afternoon, traveled down the 59 towards Houston.
The plan was to get to the other side of Houston late so there wouldn’t be much traffic as Fred was driving our large truck. That part worked out great until the brake line broke (developed a leak) along the way…It was much too late to find a mechanic or parts to be able to make the repair ourselves so, we spent the night, got up early considering the time we finally stopped to sleep, to get it repaired.
Mechanics there get $100.00 an hour (!), so on to O’Reiley’s. They were so helpful and loaned Fred the tools…a few hours later, and back on the road.
I had called WAO last week to advise them we were coming and left a message for someone to return my call. I called again on Saturday and left yet another message for a return phone call…I called once again on Monday to speak with someone to let them know it would be Tuesday or Wednesday to pick up the cages instead because of the breakdown. Samuel Sherwood spoke with me telling me it was his first day of taking over the sanctuary. He said he had no information about the cats or the agreement with District Attorney William Gleason.
I told him I had a copy of the agreement between Marion County and us and pictures of the cages before and after the seizure and could identify the cages, no problem. I also told him about the breakdown and would not be there until Tuesday or Wednesday as I was also picking some things up that were in storage that weren’t far from San Antonio and that would give him the time to locate the paperwork and the cages…no problem. (Please remember that was MONDAY)
I called Tuesday to give him an update, left a message, no one returned my call…again on Wednesday (after a tire blew) with yet another update, left a message, no one returned my call…all I could do was leave messages; Samuel was always on the phone or had someone in his office…much to busy to speak with me!?!?!?
We had a blow out on one of the tires (more like an explotion!) in the middle of no where and had to wait 3 hours for road service! I finally found someone to bring us 2 tires and install one, the other we would have as a spare should it happen again. It was quite late so we stopped at the first hotel we could find…ugh! I didn’t know places like that were still around!
The following day we hit the road and stopped at a roadside picnic area to make lunch and call them once again. Now I call and Samuel answers the phone(!). He tells me he can’t locate the cages and has no paperwork! He also tells me he doesn’t have the cages! He says when they pick up cats, they are transferred to the WAO transport cages and that the police department destroyed them!?!?
First I’m told he’s new and knows nothing and now he’s telling me their policies? Doesn’t he know how far I am traveling to get my property? I don’t want to play his game!
I told him that I doubted that and would be making calls about the situation to the Marion County Sheriff’s office and get back to him. I also confirmed that I was told it was my responsibility to get the cages from WAO as my agreement with the District Attorney…that we had been in court since and was given the information at that time. There was no mention of the cages being in Marion County and that Marion County would have either expected me to pick them up or would have brought them back to my property; this just didn’t sound like he knew what he was talking about. I also told him I had traveled at my expense to get the cages and his agreement was with the County District Attorney and they were to keep them for 6 months for me to retrieve them.
What I didn’t say was that no way was I buying his story.
Now I’m also becoming irritated…I call the Marion County Sheriff’s office to find out what the situation was with making the transfer, Kirbyville was extremely cooperative and is holding the cages for as long as it takes, even told me after 6 months and not to worry about it.
Why was this a different story being told to me…think because they want to keep those cages or sold them?!? And certainly why wait to finally talk to me after I am so close to San Antonio…Something to do with respect too I imagine…after all, my animals were seized…
Well this sanctuary was embezzling money, animals were not receiving the benefits from the donations, animals missing…a take over and reason he got his fancy little job. WTF!?!
Seems the new guy is as bad as the rest were…(HELLO…we’re available, lol!)
I think Samuel had better straighten this matter out and locate those cages…that sanctuary doesn’t need more problems…looks like they don’t care…more on that later, I’m getting ahead of myself.
I spoke with Marion County and everyone had left for the day so, another night out…ugh…these stinking hotel rooms good, bad, and otherwise weren’t cheap!
Bill McKay’s secretary, Linda, is a sweetheart! She got on the phone and started to search out who would know and sent me to the DA’s office…
Would they help?
Do they have to?
I was left with things going thru my mind and that there’s more to this story!
Thursday morning I started making the calls once again only this time, I started with the DA office. Time someone told me about the transfer and if they had signed agreements or what? Yep, all roads led to Mr. Gleason…I have to call the DA’s office and get help from a man I fear and come not to trust…would he and could I?
I left a message for Mr. Gleason or Larry Nance to call me back. Calls are going back and forth and Mr. Gleason sends me and them a fax of their agreement with him. I wait about thirty minutes and call WAO, Samuel answers, and he tells me he did not receive a fax. I tell him I’ll call Mr. Gleason as I received the fax he sent me and ask if I should send it to him, he said no. So I said I would call Mr. Gleason back to see if their copy was sent and asked for his fax number for verification. He said “Oh, don’t do that, you’ll make him mad.” I said “Not my concern. If Mr. Gleason gets mad about having to resend the fax it was not my concern or my problem, I was there to pick up my cages, see Boris and Gizmo and make the long drive back.”
I call Mr. Gleason, verify the fax number and confirm with him I received my copy and ask him to resend. They claim no fax, I’m sitting at a roadside, wait another 30 minutes, call again and a lady answers this time, her name is Michele. She said they received the fax that I sent??? I tell her I’m sitting at a picnic table and that came from the Marion County District Attorney’s office…she says oh, we’ll get back to you…
WOW! Suddenly Samuel is available and telling me they need to locate the cages, they don’t know where they are or which ones are mine, give him a few minutes and call him back. So, now he realizes his first story wasn’t going to work out…he needs time to think up another…he acknowledges that he received the fax and NOW knows they are responsible for the cages. I know that this Michelle and her husband were there for the transfer…
A while later, my phone rings…it’s Samuel (how shocking, he called me) and now he’s talking fast (you know the type of conversation that starts with “Here’s what I can do for you!”) and he’s got yet, get this, another ‘story’ about the cages being destroyed only this time THEY destroyed the cages on MONDAY! WTF?!? I told them the week before that I was coming for them…I’m beginning to fume…
Now I’m tiring of his game! But agree to listen…well, not exactly because I wanted to but because he insisted and wouldn’t let me get a word in.
Here’s his tale: “We destroyed those cages because they were so crappy and didn’t meet USDA regulations so we’re going to give you two of ours.”
I said wait a minute, he kept talking and I’m not buying this BS at all! Talking like a ‘con artist’ or one of those ‘high pressure salesman’…oh, that’s the same thing…He finally stops talking and allows me to talk…
I told him that he didn’t know what he was talking about. That my transport cages were just rebuilt. That those transport cages were approved by the USDA and had been inspected a day before the seizure. Furthermore, it was THEIR responsibility to keep them for 6 months per THEIR agreement with Marion County and for me to retrieve them. Furthermore, my agreement with Marion County was to retrieve my property only, not accept anything less, during that time.
We attempted to do that. Please keep in mind we were NOT allowed to look at their storage area for my property! We were at one of two properties were they keep animals.
Back to the song and dance part…he says he will offer me ‘better cages’ that belonged to WAO to satisfy the agreement…was sure I’d be happy with that…HA, he hasn’t been to my blog now has he??!!
Says he was leaving at 4 and if he wasn’t there, could talk to his man in charge, Jamie if I wanted to see the cages and take them with me, my cages were destroyed and nothing he could do about it…I told him I was coming…now 1:30 (!) but if they weren’t like mine I would not accept them. He said it was the best he could do. I told him it might not be good enough and he would be explaining that to Mr. Gleason if I don’t take them, not my problem! It would be between him and District Attorney Gleason. If he was afraid I would make Mr. Gleason mad before, he should really be scared now!
We arrived at this place at 3:30. As we are pulling in we see two men jump in their car and leave. (hummmmm, could one of those men have been Samuel?!?) We go inside past the sign that says the place is closed…WTF?!?
The fencing looks nice, tall privacy fencing, and enter the building. There are a few novelty items for sell, the walls need painting, the floors need mopping; looking ragged would be the nicest term I have to say about it…large display cases sit nearly empty as well as the racks.
There are brochures on top of the display cages…YES, I took some…Doors open to what appears to be offices. We meet some lady named Michele. I ask for Samuel and she says he’s gone…but it’s not 4 yet…Oh, he left an hour ago and won’t be back…hummmm….OK, I ask for Jamie (her husband!!!)…he’s not in and won’t be for another hour and a half…
I ask if the cages sitting outside were the ones they were offering and she said they were…I told her they weren’t acceptable! Broken tiny wheels, old wooden warped floors and no ‘slop doors’ (in other words if you transport an animal in this cage, you could not clean it out!) a door on one side and the rest, including the top, is of wire (!????). The metal was thin walled materials and only 2 braces on the bottom…
NOT ACCEPTABLE! She’s mad! Had someone destroyed her property she would not accept anything less…why should we!????!!!
I ask to see Boris and Gizmo so Michele calls a care giver, Michele…yea right, another Michele…go figure…
We go outside into the sanctuary…it’s run down and the grass overgrown. We walk past a large bear and this girl is talking to the animals along the way…and I see Boris pacing in the front. I ask if he’s always pacing or just excited to see me…of course I know the path of pacing…it’s a clear path along the sides and front of the caging with grass grown around where he’s not pacing, I know what I’m looking at! But maybe she didn’t want me to worry. This person was very nice with 15 years experience. There were no enhancement for him…
He was phuffing and rubbing the fence the way he always did when he saw me. He started licking the fencing like he always did but he’s extremely thin! His coat short with thick mane and alone in a large cage! Boris is a very social animal, always with one of the other tigers. It’s apparent he’s not happy! Nothing I can do about that, I no longer own him…makes me wish I had stayed in jail!
Michele tells me they are short of funds and short handed. Let’s hope so considering the condition of the place…only excuse for it being so run down.
I see another cage and a tiger lying on top of a wooden box intended for shelter. I call him as I always do…”Hey Gizmo!” No response…I call to him again and he looks and then a double take…he flew off the box and came running to the fence…He’s licking the fence and I’ve got tears in my eyes…we have a conversation as he phuffs at me. He too is quite thin…remember I have pictures. First taken by the Marion County sheriff’s department and least we forget the media! And my own set taken by Fred.
There’s old chicken in the cage but he hasn’t been pacing. Gizmo probably just lays around accept when time for food…Both those tigers are accustom to 10-15 pounds of chicken and 5-8 pounds of beef each day…hummmm
I see many other cages and probably the largest group of capuchins I have ever seen and go back to the side of Boris’ cage for a few licks (kisses). All my tigers were trained to kiss and they weren’t being asked to give a kiss…they were giving.
As he rubs on the cage, the side of the cage moves so I ask if there is a break in the weld and she said no that that’s just the way it is but I bet further investigation would have found a break somewhere…well, not my responsibility I suppose…they have been inspected by the USDA and considering the large number of animals with two locations, it would be through. But I would do the research and see after arriving home. I did, and I am shocked! Last July and not what I had expected to read.
I’m hearing everyone complaining about donations and being short handed…Michele has to go the their other property to give medications and do whatever she has to finish at the end of the day. We go back in the office, she leaves.
I’m told Jamie is not back. So I left my info and tell them we have another tire problem and need to get it repaired while I still could get it done so we could head back, it’s now about 5. We go outside and see 2-3 guys parking and open the gate to either unload or load up.
Fred and I look at each other and decide I should inquire if one is Jamie. He should have been looking for me not me him.
He confirms that they destroyed the cages MONDAY…I asked exactly how they managed to do it and why because one cage is solid steal on three sides with 3/4 inch plywood and solid plastic floor that had just been reworked including the tires with tick walled steal! The other has strips of solid stele and the wire rated for keeping bears, the thickest made I believe…anyway, he says they used a claw(?) and crushed it and then…get this…hauled them to the dump…BULLSCHITT JAMIE…I then looked him square in the eye and asked why, they were better than what they were offering. He said “You seizure people never get your cages back anyway”…WHAT THE F**K!?!…I said…”Well you now have a problem with the Marion County District Attorney!” He shrugged his shoulders…OMG! They are asking for the rath of God now…
WAO are in breech of contract with Marion County, not me…who is this guy with this big wad of tobacco in his mouth think he’s talking to!?!? I drove almost 400 miles (more actually seeking repairs and getting lost!) for nothing with hwy diesel fuel costing more than $3.00 (usually $3.10)…stayed in motel rooms starting at $50.00, and the truck repairs for this??!!
They didn’t destroy those cages, that’s obvious and someone knows where they are and had better get them to me quick! I’ve become a very pushy broad and they are pushing me hard!
HUMMMMM, and there’s someone in the Valley wondering why I didn’t contact THIS sanctuary to take the cats in the first place…Commenting on how I’ve changed…THIS IS A NO LIMIT BLOG OF MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND FEELINGS…get over it! I’ve changed! My animals have been wronged, I have been wronged and this is just one more to add to the list!
Check this link lady I checked them out…you do the same!
http://www.rexano.org/WAO.htm
Make sure you check those links!
Until now, NEITHER ME OR FRED HAVE BEEN IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW MUCH LESS BEEN IN JAIL!
How dare they take these cats and place them at this sanctuary!
Now they have some guy by the name of Samuel Sherwood taking over with Jamie still in charge! WTF?
http://www.rexano.org/hypocritical_sanctuaries.htm
Check that link too!
I called Mr. Gleason Friday to give an update and he was as shocked as I. Wondered why a sanctuary would destroy those cages!! He knew those were great cages…he knows they were approved for transport by the USDA.
Now I also reminded him of our agreement. I did my part within the time frame…Marion County is now in breech of a contract with me! They assumed the responsibility of those cages with the confiscation. MY PROPERTY YES but there are rules in the Texas Code that concerns the return of confiscated property and while I agreed to go get them I did not agree to go there twice at my expense!
Furthermore, should I drive all the way to WI and run into the same problem?!?!
I’m looking into a transport company rather than have this happen again! Maybe some kind person will come to my aid and retrieve those cages for us but I truly doubt I’ll find anyone coming this way with an empty truck big enough to retrieve those cages…see you soon Jeff! Those cages better be there and in as good a condition as last I saw them before you transported those cats!
Funny, I had told several people I was going to ask the followers of this blog to donate to the sanctuaries that have the animals…don’t bother…looks like they are ALL thieves! Reprinting the media and whatever slanderous garbage they can…lying and stealing other peoples animals and property…grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
The lady that has both Tigger and Natasha seems to be different, we’ll see soon enough when we go after those cages!
Funny, there is a cage still here (remember Dandy) and the wheels are just fine! Mr. Gleason said they didn’t do the damage, then who did? I have the pictures and one cage here! Those wheels were either new or rebuilt…WTF?!?!?!Realizing that the cages were probably sold for scrap metal, I posted a response to the site, so the former animal owners would know the truth. I know Barbara and Fred think the WAO’s staff is hiding the transporters, keeping the cages because they are better than the WAO’s transporters, but I truly believe they were scrapped for their metal value.
Again, I repeat, this is an adult blog and if you don’t like my colorful language, lock your children out and if I have offended you then don’t come here for your Internet entertainment.
If you are concerned about everything that has gone on and apparently continues to go on than I want to hear from you! If you have a means to offer help than please, let us know!
We were not convicted of any crime…unlike many others…never even been suspected of any crime, unlike others…
Either comment or email me at barbara@exoticendangeredcatsoftheworld.com
My old web site: www.exoticendangeredcatsoftheworld.com
-B
Pictures? Of course we have pictures…stay tuned!
We’ve returned ‘home’
What is worse, the two offered transporters are WAO property, paid for supposedly by IFAW, and offered to Barbara and Fred as possible replacements! Yikes – the WAO only had 5-6 transporters at Leslie Road. Giving away two transporters would present a major safety/health problem for the WAO animals and staff. What the heck are the Cryers and Shermans’ thinking? Have they totally lost their minds?
At least Gizmo and Boris’ former owners have a great case against the WAO’s directors since they supposedly destroyed their property. Based on all the stories the Cryers and Shermans allegedly told Barbara and Fred, it appears nothing has changed at the WAO. First, the Asvestas’ lying about the animals’ health condition and now the Cryers/Shermans lying about their business transactions.
No doubt they will try to pin this problem on Nicole too!
I have been communicating with Barbara off-line and she told me the animals looked really thin when she last visited the facility, the office looked “ratty” and the grounds looked absolutely terrible.
It took four months to clean up the facility and in just under six minutes, the Cryers returned the WAO to its former state of disrepair. I heard they are unable to open up for tours because the property looks so bad.
As long as the doors remain closed, donations will dry up and folks will stop going to the WAO’s website. As it stands, the new “directors” have no idea how to update the web site! What a joke! Instead of sucking up their pride, and simply ask Nicole for the web information, they will allow the WAO to lose web traffic, thereby lose donations.
No doubt, the WAO’s current web traffic numbers were reduced to pre-Garcia levels since no update has been made since May 1, 2010. Back in the day, Ron and Carol rarely updated the website, so web traffic was low. Once the web pages were updated, new material added, the number of donations and web visitors increased two and in some cases, threefold! Ah, the power of the web! Any true business person knows it’s important to have an updated website, encouraging repeat business and referrals.
I am truly scared for the animals as I believe the pride of the new directors will prevent the animals from receiving the help they need. I have reason to believe the Cryers and the Sherwoods are lying to the USDA and the OAG regarding the WAO’s true financial status. I also believe it is their pride getting in the way of the truth that these two “families” do not have the skills and abilities necessary to save the animals. This is quite evident since the facility has been closed since May 1, 2010, donations have gone done despite the emergency appeal sent out during the first week of May 2010, and phone calls are not being returned in a prompt manner by the directors.
The worse part about this situation is that “pride” does not feed, clean, and properly house the WAO animals. The current “directors” made a really big mistake ousting Nicole Garcia. Instead of working with her and her staff, they showed them the door. Why could they have not work with her, helped her, save the WAO animals? Instead, they made her their scapegoat, blaming all their problems on her. And the animals are caught in the middle of this cat fight.
It should be interesting to learn how Marion County District Attorney’s Office will hand the breach of contact between the County and the WAO. I pray the animals will not have to pay the fine or the transporters replacement costs – I pray the Cryers and Sherwoods pay out of THEIR own pockets the $7,000 owed to Barbara and Fred. After all, they screwed up and they should pay – not the animals!
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